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	<title>Comments on: eLocal Listings, Don&#8217;t Hire These Guys</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: toritaiyo</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2217</link>
		<dc:creator>toritaiyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Dear google.com,
    I visited your website and noticed that you are not listed in most of the major search engines and directories…”

LOL!!!   :)

That is hilarious!!

Awesome post. agree 100% 
I was just complaining about them on seochat before I found this post. 
http://forums.seochat.com/seo-professionals-57/pros-and-cons-of-company-elocal-listing-192844.html

These elocal people are horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Dear google.com,<br />
    I visited your website and noticed that you are not listed in most of the major search engines and directories…”</p>
<p>LOL!!!   <img src='http://blog.kbsweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That is hilarious!!</p>
<p>Awesome post. agree 100%<br />
I was just complaining about them on seochat before I found this post.<br />
<a href="http://forums.seochat.com/seo-professionals-57/pros-and-cons-of-company-elocal-listing-192844.html" rel="nofollow">http://forums.seochat.com/seo-professionals-57/pros-and-cons-of-company-elocal-listing-192844.html</a></p>
<p>These elocal people are horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2210</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took my threatening to call the California Attorney General to get my money back from eLocal Listings.  

Of course, all of the recommendations you've made in this article make perfect sense.  As small business owners, the competition can be fierce so when someone offers a solution to better exposure, we often fall victim to the ploy.  

For several days with this company my organic ranking was good however, several weeks later I was on page 3.  SEO requires constant tracking and as we know, the net is constantly changing.  

I continue to receive weekly phone calls from similar companies...including eLocal Listings asking me to reconsider using them!!!  Thanks for your valuable information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took my threatening to call the California Attorney General to get my money back from eLocal Listings.  </p>
<p>Of course, all of the recommendations you&#8217;ve made in this article make perfect sense.  As small business owners, the competition can be fierce so when someone offers a solution to better exposure, we often fall victim to the ploy.  </p>
<p>For several days with this company my organic ranking was good however, several weeks later I was on page 3.  SEO requires constant tracking and as we know, the net is constantly changing.  </p>
<p>I continue to receive weekly phone calls from similar companies&#8230;including eLocal Listings asking me to reconsider using them!!!  Thanks for your valuable information.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Island Home Insurance</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2209</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Island Home Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - this is by far the best post I have read on this company.  Jeremy, you summarized your points so well and gave lots of pointers that most people would not take into consideration.  I think you will help a lot of business owners make the proper decisions.  Can anyone else please tell me what other names/companies are affiliated with them so I can watch out for myself?  I know they have a few that they go by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow - this is by far the best post I have read on this company.  Jeremy, you summarized your points so well and gave lots of pointers that most people would not take into consideration.  I think you will help a lot of business owners make the proper decisions.  Can anyone else please tell me what other names/companies are affiliated with them so I can watch out for myself?  I know they have a few that they go by.</p>
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		<title>By: Kath</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2196</link>
		<dc:creator>Kath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Well I fell victim to these guys yesterday.  They sounded like they genuinely cared, though I thought it weird that they could not supply statistics.  Anyway, when I researched them an hour or so later, I immediately called CA customer service to cancel.  He emailed the re-sellers he said I spoke to in PA, and suggested I do as well.  I have since emailed both CA and PA and spoken to one of the guys in PA, and no one has/can confirm this has been cancelled.  I do not want to lose the hard-earned Google &#38; Yahoo rankings we have achieved.

Any other advice??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Well I fell victim to these guys yesterday.  They sounded like they genuinely cared, though I thought it weird that they could not supply statistics.  Anyway, when I researched them an hour or so later, I immediately called CA customer service to cancel.  He emailed the re-sellers he said I spoke to in PA, and suggested I do as well.  I have since emailed both CA and PA and spoken to one of the guys in PA, and no one has/can confirm this has been cancelled.  I do not want to lose the hard-earned Google &amp; Yahoo rankings we have achieved.</p>
<p>Any other advice??</p>
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		<title>By: Nexgen Business Solutions</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2184</link>
		<dc:creator>Nexgen Business Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This company is VERY shady.  They called us today too...
Tried to force us into buying their services.

We do SEO also, but they were too lazy to visit our site to see our services.

ELocallisting.com  ... buyer BEWARE....

If it's too good to be true, then it's too good to be true.

To the author of this page, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This company is VERY shady.  They called us today too&#8230;<br />
Tried to force us into buying their services.</p>
<p>We do SEO also, but they were too lazy to visit our site to see our services.</p>
<p>ELocallisting.com  &#8230; buyer BEWARE&#8230;.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s too good to be true, then it&#8217;s too good to be true.</p>
<p>To the author of this page, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Scott</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you're ripping me for not having done enough research on eLocal Listings and Ripoff Report before writing?  

Did you even read my post?  

That's rhetorical, because it's quite clear that you didn't, or you would have noticed that I didn't write this because I read some Ripoff Report and decided to summarize it.  

This post was written after personal contact with eLocal.  You called me.  And when you called me, you weren't prepared, you didn't know a thing about my company or my website, you made false claims, and generally seemed like weasels.  And one of the first points I made was about how your man didn't do enough research on a website before making assumptions.  

And I would love it if you would have a Google or Yahoo representative support your claim that you can submit things directly to them, since their websites and spokespeople insist that no one has that privilege.  Until I can see that... then you might as well claim you guys cure cancer--it'd be just as believable.  

Thanks for continuing to act in a way that only further supports our conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re ripping me for not having done enough research on eLocal Listings and Ripoff Report before writing?  </p>
<p>Did you even read my post?  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s rhetorical, because it&#8217;s quite clear that you didn&#8217;t, or you would have noticed that I didn&#8217;t write this because I read some Ripoff Report and decided to summarize it.  </p>
<p>This post was written after personal contact with eLocal.  You called me.  And when you called me, you weren&#8217;t prepared, you didn&#8217;t know a thing about my company or my website, you made false claims, and generally seemed like weasels.  And one of the first points I made was about how your man didn&#8217;t do enough research on a website before making assumptions.  </p>
<p>And I would love it if you would have a Google or Yahoo representative support your claim that you can submit things directly to them, since their websites and spokespeople insist that no one has that privilege.  Until I can see that&#8230; then you might as well claim you guys cure cancer&#8211;it&#8217;d be just as believable.  </p>
<p>Thanks for continuing to act in a way that only further supports our conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Almost at a loss for words</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2162</link>
		<dc:creator>Almost at a loss for words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, where do i begin? I cant believe that you would exert so much time and effort in bad mouthing a company and not do the research to get some of your facts straight. I do happen to be affiliated with this company, and i can at least give you a few facts in regards to some of the issues. now first off, i find it hilarious that people think they are clever when they do `research` on the company and see listings on rip off report, but they dont bother to do research on the website that they are getting the information from. now, if you were to do a tad more investigating you would find that the founder Ed Magdenson is a fugitive from the US government for numerous counts including drug involvement. He also has several suits currently involving libel with companies that he has written false information about. Yes, this is who I want to get my facts from, give me a break. Essentially, it is a rant forum. I could go to that website, fill a report out for this company, go on and on about how i was scammed, and its not necessarily true. Dont get me wrong we cant make everyone happy, we have about 13,000 customers so its no easy feat.And another thing, we dont guarantee placement whatsoever. We do have a very high success rate in listing our clients on the first pages of the search results, and we tell them that. We do have a very good b2b relationship with yahoo and google, we are one of only twenty something companies in the world that can directly submit data to these search engines. (can your backwoods Tennessee company say the same?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, where do i begin? I cant believe that you would exert so much time and effort in bad mouthing a company and not do the research to get some of your facts straight. I do happen to be affiliated with this company, and i can at least give you a few facts in regards to some of the issues. now first off, i find it hilarious that people think they are clever when they do `research` on the company and see listings on rip off report, but they dont bother to do research on the website that they are getting the information from. now, if you were to do a tad more investigating you would find that the founder Ed Magdenson is a fugitive from the US government for numerous counts including drug involvement. He also has several suits currently involving libel with companies that he has written false information about. Yes, this is who I want to get my facts from, give me a break. Essentially, it is a rant forum. I could go to that website, fill a report out for this company, go on and on about how i was scammed, and its not necessarily true. Dont get me wrong we cant make everyone happy, we have about 13,000 customers so its no easy feat.And another thing, we dont guarantee placement whatsoever. We do have a very high success rate in listing our clients on the first pages of the search results, and we tell them that. We do have a very good b2b relationship with yahoo and google, we are one of only twenty something companies in the world that can directly submit data to these search engines. (can your backwoods Tennessee company say the same?)</p>
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		<title>By: Prior Employee</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>Prior Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no opinion on the topic at hand I just want to say that they were never ever relevant yellow, that was a company they worked with. But yes they were zone communications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no opinion on the topic at hand I just want to say that they were never ever relevant yellow, that was a company they worked with. But yes they were zone communications.</p>
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		<title>By: what a joke</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2093</link>
		<dc:creator>what a joke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for elocal for a year!!

SCAM SCAM SCAM.


do NOT trust this company. Todd is the ring leader, 
and does in fact hold false promises and money over the employees heads. The sales department, are instructed to LIE. We had weekly meetings, called THE CHURCH OF TODD to discuss loop holes, and ways to get out of giving back due monies. 

Please save yourself the headache and money and DO NOT do business with them!


They just laid off half their staff, and are so, so far in debt!

They were previously: Relevant Yellow and Zone Communications. 

This scam will pop up again under a 4th name!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for elocal for a year!!</p>
<p>SCAM SCAM SCAM.</p>
<p>do NOT trust this company. Todd is the ring leader,<br />
and does in fact hold false promises and money over the employees heads. The sales department, are instructed to LIE. We had weekly meetings, called THE CHURCH OF TODD to discuss loop holes, and ways to get out of giving back due monies. </p>
<p>Please save yourself the headache and money and DO NOT do business with them!</p>
<p>They just laid off half their staff, and are so, so far in debt!</p>
<p>They were previously: Relevant Yellow and Zone Communications. </p>
<p>This scam will pop up again under a 4th name!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Scott</title>
		<link>http://blog.kbsweb.com/elocal-listings-dont-hire-these-guys/#comment-2064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?
Because I think it's funny that you think a little comment on an insignificant blog like ours is going to help your company's reputation when a simple search for your business name reveals several websites talking about how bad-and-possibly-shady your services are.  

I also think it's funny that you think screaming at us in all caps is the way to go here.  

And I'm more inclined to believe the countless people I've read online who talk about how hard it is to cancel your month-to-month service, rather than believe you when you say canceling is easy.  

But thanks for stopping by.  Glad you enjoy your job, I guess. Good spin-docctoring... not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?<br />
Because I think it&#8217;s funny that you think a little comment on an insignificant blog like ours is going to help your company&#8217;s reputation when a simple search for your business name reveals several websites talking about how bad-and-possibly-shady your services are.  </p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s funny that you think screaming at us in all caps is the way to go here.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m more inclined to believe the countless people I&#8217;ve read online who talk about how hard it is to cancel your month-to-month service, rather than believe you when you say canceling is easy.  </p>
<p>But thanks for stopping by.  Glad you enjoy your job, I guess. Good spin-docctoring&#8230; not.</p>
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